cantabricus nylon yellow

January 31, 2008
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  1. Brian Duncan, Northern Ireland
    Brian Duncan, Northern Ireland
    January 31, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Hello hein,
    I’m interested in the origin of the name you have given your pretty flower. Seems to be a mite contradictory  – unless it is an N. cantabricus x Nylon group seedling?
    Brian

  2. February 1, 2008 at 1:14 am

    Hello Brian,All,
     
    I don’t know if it is a seedling and am not sure of the source of it. If the name I use doesn’t exist I would like to know where I can find the good names
    and where to look at where it differs from other varieties or species for for me that is very difficult from descriptions.
    I am told that n.cantabricus are white and n.romieuxii are yellow. That is the reason why I put photos on daffnet for it is a way to learn for me.
    For a few years I buy the leftovers of small species of daffodils at one of my bigger clients. We go through his store and pick up what I think is interesting or what
    I haven’t seen before. I get the names from the labels or  the paper backs the bulbs are in. So I have yellow n.cantabricus and white n.romieuxii.
    The n.Nylon Yellow I have seems homogeneous, not variable and I like it for that.. I also have a few bulbs of n.cantabricus Nylon creme coloured but have
    not seen flowers on them so I don’t know if they have the same form and size.
    I don’t know where all the bulbs come from, some from Spain,Maroc, Tunisie, Germany and some I can’t find on the labels,or bags.
    I hope you or someone else help me to know more about the species but with all the variation of them I think a lot of names are misused.
     
    I planted the n.romieuxii lots all apart and none of them seems the same.(luckily I didnot mix!) It varies from creamy white to pure yellow
    (like the yellow of this n. Nylon) and different in size and shape.
    I have the book ‘a guide to wild daffodils’ of Mr Blanchard but with the different types it is not always helpfull.I still cannot
    compare to a photo and change names.
    I also have n.humilis ssp humilis but that flowers like a n.hedraeanthus so not a trumpet but like a small n.bulbocodium.
    Maybe it is time to put the species on daffseek, we can see a lot different or strange things and names. How can we make sure
    all the names are right at the photos?
     
    best regards, Hein Meeuwissen, Voorhout, Holland.
     
    PS It is the same with the photo of minicycla I did send I use the name of the label but safer would be minicycla group.
    I don’t like the daffodil more or less by using another name.
     
     
     
     
     
     

  3. Mary Lou Gripshover, Ohio
    Mary Lou Gripshover, Ohio
    February 1, 2008 at 5:50 am

    Hello, Hein, Brian and all,
     
    DaffSeek has an entry for Nylon Yellow, without cantabricus in the name.  It’s not registered with the RHS.  DaffSeek says it is a selection from the Nylon Group made by Potterton Nursery (Potterton & Martin ?).  Maybe this is what you have. There are photos by Jon Kawaguchi.  Maybe Jon can tell us more about it.
     
    Mary Lou

  4. Brian Duncan, Northern Ireland
    Brian Duncan, Northern Ireland
    February 1, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Hello again Hein,
      I think I have solved the mystery of your “N.cantabricus Nylon Yellow “.
      Nylon group is the name given to a range of unselected seedlings bred from :-
      N.cantabricus var foliosus  x N. romieuxii 
      In my experience N. cantabricus var. foloisus is not pure white as is N. cantabricus monophyllus and N.romieuxii is varaible between nearly white and quite yellow. But this parentage explains how cantabricus appeared in the name you had.
      So, the Nylon Group of unselected seedlings (28 chromosomes apparently – so worth breeding) would be expected to be quite variable, some being White or Whitish and some being Yellow or Yellowish. If people keep propagating Nylon Group from seed it is quite likely that deeper coloured forms will appear as will whiter examples.
      In the Potterton catalogue of 2007 ‘Nylon Yellow’ is listed as a New Introduction so it seems obvious that it is a yellow selection from  Nylon Group seedlings. The description simply says”As above (‘Nylon’) but the flowers are rich yellow”
      Pictures in Daffseek clearly illustrate the variability of ‘Nylon Group’ and many examples will be indistinguishable from either parent.
      It would be nice to have more clones that are easily identifiable but I fear the species will continue to pose problems of identification. I know one expert who, when asked for an identification of species  always first asks “where is it from”?  – meaning what wild location?
    I hope this does not add to your confusion!
    Brian