Bob Spotts, California

Kokopelli in shows

June 27, 2008

Categories: Daffodil Types, Hybridizer, Hybridizing, Intermediates, Standards

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You wrote:
As for me, I no longer enter ‘Kokopelli’ in collections—just single stems.

That’s discouraging to learn. For me the greatest show value of ‘Kokopelli’ is in large collections – the Havens, Quinn, Bozievich, Tuggle, or Throckmorton.

For those readers not familiar with ADS Shows, the collections are:

 Havens Award      12 different from three or more of Div. 5-10
 Quinn Award     24 different from five or more Divisions
 Bozievich Award   12 different from four or more Divisions
 Tuggle Award     12 different sets of three stems of the same cultivar/species from three or more Divisions
  Throckmorton Award   15 with different RHS classifications
All the collections require Standard cultivars or species. In the ADS this includes Intermediates.


5 responses to “Kokopelli in shows”

  1. Peter and Lesley Ramsay says:



    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – Kokopelli is one of the nicest daffodils that I grow.  Very healthy (just through the  ground here with lovely clean jonquilla foliage), multiplies rapidly and is very floriferous.  Unlike other smallish daffodils it doesn’t require special treatment. It will grow well wherever you put it even through grass  For those of us privileged enough to see it in Holland where the bed went as far as the eye could see, what a sight!!  I would be VERY proud if I had raised it.  It doesn’t matter what size it is, everyone should grow a clump of this charming little beauty.


    Have been out weeding today, driven in by one of a series of thunder storms.  As our climate changes we are prone to sub tropical storms, but these ones are unusual as they have come from the west.  Most of NZ has had them – in our district some cows and horses have died as a result of the storms.  The rain they bring is welcome (six inches in the last two weeks) which the daffs will love.


    All the best to everyone,




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  2. Marilyn Howe says:

    Here, here Peter!!!!!!!!!!!

    Marilynn Howe

  3. Donna Dietsch says:
    Since you think that Kokopelli should go into those five collections that you referenced,  you are saying that Kokopelli is a standard daffodil and not a miniature, unless grown poorly.
    That is how I interpret your comment.  Am I correct?
    Donna Dietsch
  4. Melissa Reading says:

    Here we go again.

    I have still not heard anyone articulate a clear definition of what constitutes a miniature in the upper divisions where there are multiple florets.  The best I’ve heard anyone do is to say "I know one when I see one".  So, my suggestion is that someone post a clear definition of a multi-floret miniature before Bob goes near that question for his specific case.

    After that, as I’ve said on earlier posts, I hope we can all remain mindful that there are actually cultivars which grow very differently in different soils, seasons, climates, etc.  And if Kokopelli is one that is more highly variable than many, and happens to fall close to one of our arbitrary demarcations, then perhaps we had all ought to recognize that, and leave this specific ambiguity unresolved.  There is no sin in that.  What would be wrong is to draw a clear demarcation where none exists in nature.


  5. Loyce McKenzie, Mississippi Loyce McKenzie says:

    I don’t want Bob Spotts to feel discouraged.  Anyone who can stand in a field of beautiful flowers (especially a Division 7!) and know that all of them come from a moment’s accidental or planned cross he made long years ago should be very, very proud.
    I dearly love ‘Kokopelli.’  I remember the first time I saw it, at my second Portland convention, growing in a wide sweep in the field across the road from Jeanie Driver’s garden. I coveted it then and I treasure it now.
    But growing is growing and showing is showing.
    Growing is more important over a much longer time, but a show is for now, and if you’re going to enter, you are going to try to win.
    If you knew that a judge really, really didn’t like (choose one) split coronas, doubles, yellow-pink flowers, would you deliberately put one in your Quinn that you’d worked and planned for over the winter months? I think not.
    In our area, deep down most people tend to think about ‘Kokopelli’ as (probably) a miniature, although we all know it is not on the list.  In plenty of our Deep South shows, you’ll have ‘Kokopelli’ winning in both standards and miniatures, sometimes staged by the same exhibitor.
    You just don’t give your competitors a foothold, nor make the judges ponder too much.
    That’s nothing to disappoint you, Bob—it’s just reality, or, as I prefer to think of it, wise exhibiting strategy.

    Loyce McKenzie
    Zone 8A