John McLennan, New Zealand

mum , dad , kids.

July 28, 2008

Categories: Daffodil Types, Miniatures, Non-Daffodil, Show Results

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This is the family of  Kapiti  Kauri.
Left  –  Mum  —  Toorak  Gold
Right  –  Dad  –  O  P  Sol  D, Or  sdlg.
Top  the kid  Kapiti  Kauri.
Do you have room in your show schedule for a single vase class of mum , dad , and a sibling.
Would create a lot of public interest, particularly with doubles , split coronas , miniatures and multi heads.
All efforts to encourage and stimulate public interest are worth a try .

9 responses to “mum , dad , kids.”

  1. Clay Higgins says:

    the Washington DC Daffodil Society has a category for “mother” (mom) and ‘child’ ( the kid).
    the Dad????

    Clay Higgins


  2. Edith Godfrey says:

    Here in Minnesota, our own Michael Berrigan did that type of exhibit at our show last May—with his own seedling!  He had both “mom” and “dad” with the seedling between them.  It was a great educational exhibit!  I think we should think up some type of ADS award to regularly promote this type of “family” exhibit—on a scale that even local shows are likely to be able to offer.

    Edie Godfrey


  3. Loyce McKenzie, Mississippi Loyce McKenzie says:
    This sounds like fun.  I’d already thought about asking Ted Snazelle if we could have a Dutch Award class (with just a local blue of course), because it would be intriguing to do, and we have several historic devotees who would eat it up.
    And the parent-child class (wasn’t this an extra in a recent convention)
    would also be interesting.
    We could class all of this EDUCATIONAL!


  4. Kathy Welsh says:

    In a message dated 7/28/2008 12:59:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  title= writes:

    the Washington DC Daffodil Society has a category for “mother” (mom) and ‘child’ ( the kid).
    the Dad????

    Well…………that’s not exactly true!  WDS has had a class called Parent/Child for as long as I can remember.  Either one of the parents can be displayed with the child.  About ten years ago we had a bit of a controversy because one of the exhibits was a mini and the other a standard. In other words n. jonquilla was one of the parents and produced a standard because of the other parent.  Because ADS rules say that minis and standards have to be in different sections in the show, be had to be more specific to prevent this from happening in future years. Maybe the National schedule should adopt a Parent/Child class, or other shows could add the class. Parent/Child always has a number of entries and the winner receives a WDS award of a pewter cup or $20 gift certificate for our bulb order.

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  5. Bill Lee says:

    In a message dated 7/29/2008 4:18:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,  title= writes:

    Because ADS rules say that minis and standards have to be in different sections in the show, be had to be more specific to prevent this from happening in future years.

    The easy way around this, in my opinion, is to make it a local awards class with the note that entries are not eligible for ADS awards (such as best mini in show, etc.). Then it is none of the ADS’s business what is entered. However, you might have to hit a recalcitrant judge over the head.
    Bill Lee

  6. Nancy Tackett says:

    After reading Edie’s email, Ben and I emptied a pot of coffee discussing the possibilities for ADS ‘generations’ classes.  For some growers that have the depth of flowers, entries could include ‘families’ consisting of daffodils with three or four generations or as far back as possible.

    A three-bloom class, with a new seedling under number, could encourage new hybridizers to show what they are growing and give a hint of their hybridizing goals.  It would give others a chance to see these seedlings too.  Another three-bloom class with all named blooms could help people to start thinking about taking that hybridizing step.

    The corresponding hybridizer and non-hybridizer classes with grandparents or earlier would be very fascinating.  These would be seven-blooms usually, but could have species parents or sports that could result in five or six blooms for a grandparents class. 

    These classes would have educational and historical value as Loyce stated and might also serve as motivation for people to begin hybridizing.  We agree with Edie, that this would be wonderful to include these classes in all levels of ADS shows, from the local to the National.

    Ben and Nancy
    Martinez, Calif

  7. Brian Duncan, Northern Ireland Brian Duncan says:

    Kathy, Bill et al,
    I’d say, just to stir a bit ‘”Never let the rules get in the way of a good idea”!

  8. Chriss Rainey says:

    I think this conversation is interesting.  I’ve had lots of fun creating the criteria for the “local classes” in the WDS Pie Eater’s show, so I can understand all that coffee drinking Ben and Nancy did when they were exploring the possibilities of family connections on the bench. 
    However, as Kathy Welsh has said, WDS has had a class like this for as long as either of us can remember.  Our members are very familiar with it.  It is not a hotly contested class, and most years there are only one or two entries. 
    It is not a popular class to enter. I suspect the reason people do enter it is because it carries the prize of a coupon toward our bulb order.  Otherwise, I’m not sure people would enter it at all. 
    I think it is a lot more fun to think about a class like this than it is actually enter it, which would require keeping track of parentages in our collection data bases and sorting them out when it is show time. 
    Now, I keep names, color codes, hybridizers, countries, and years of introduction for historics, but I don’t keep up with who is related to whom and don’t think adding a class like this to any show schedule would make me want to start. 
    Adding a class to the already fully loaded national show schedule is a serious step, especially a class that is not associated with an ADS Award and that does not fill a real need on the bench.  I hope before we seriously propose a national class of this kind, we have proven the popularity and success of it in several local shows to indicate a trend for what many people are interested.
    Chriss Rainey

  9. Donna Dietsch says:
    Because I do some hybridizing, my personal data base contains the names of the parents of every cultivar in my collection and I also keep track of the information on each ones’ fertility.
    I use my own successes in getting seed to add to the fertility data on the daffnet.
    So a class of this kind would be easy enough to do, provided that I have kept the parents of my introductions or have the parents of those named ones I grow.  I agree that a national class would be possibly more than anyone would want.  I don’t think you would have to give a nifty prize to the winner in order to get someone to enter.  Well, not around here, anyway.
    Donna Dietsch
    Columbus Ohio