John McLennan, New Zealand

chinesesacred lily

January 26, 2009
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Categories: Bulb Information, Daffodil Types, Growing Daffodils, Species

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 Hi to all daffnetters,
 
 My first posting for the new year .Hope the lifting ,grading  etc is going wellfor all the southern growers and the anticipation [ and the bulbs ] isrising for our northern members.  The first few blooms we have seen are a welcome view of hopefully many to follow.
 
Today 26  January is the first day of the Chinese  New Year.
I have  N Z chinese neighbours and very close friends for over  30 years  —  they have become keen daffodil fans after that long tolerating me.
I printed out the link from  Will  DeWees on Chinese Sacred Lily and over a delightful  Chinese meal  [ I,m pretty smart with  chopsticks] ,
quite a few questions arose that I could,nt answer
 
Your help is requested , please.
 
 Daffseek lists C S L as subspecies  tazetta  lacticolor
Where is the species naturally  found  —  probably  Europe  or  North Africa.
 
Is it accepted that it was taken to asia  by Marco Polo  —  can this be verified  by wriings  etc.?
 
IS  there a large variation in the forms found in different  locations on the  Silk  Road ?
 
Have modern  scientific means  [possibly  D N A  tests ]  concluded  that the Asian  forms  and the Western forms are the same  ?  I
 
Is it at all possible that the Asian  form was an  original that was taken to Europe , again over the  Silk Road highways  ?
 
Enough questions for one evening..–
 
My neighbours tell me that small presentation packs of  C S L  sell very well as New year gift in Hong Kong  —  also  quite  expensive.
They are probably naturally openning about now  in Hong Kong and southern China  —  will be much later  in the north of such a hugh country.
 
Cheers  John  Mclennan

4 responses to “chinesesacred lily”

  1. Ben Zonneveld says:

    There is no doubt that the Chines sacred lily is was brought from the west, narcissi don’t grow further east than Greece . Moreover it is a triploid  form of tazetta. Having been grown for so many centuries it is bound that deviations are found somewhere. Other triploid tazetta’s  are : Caniculatus, Odoratus, Flore Plenus, Grand Soleil d’Or 
    Ben  

  2. Mary Lou Gripshover, Ohio Mary Lou Gripshover says:

    John,
    You might also print out the link to “Daffodil Bulb Carving” which is on the ADS website under Links.
    Mary Lou

  3. Henry Shejbal, Italy Henry Shejbal says:

    Dear John,
     
    The CSL was probably brought to China by Portuguese merchants via the sea.
    Many years ago (in the’80s), after a visit to China, I included in the ADS journal a story about Chinese painters in a southern province who painted for me several sheets in watercolours and included a poem about this Narcissus which every child in China had to learn by heart. http://www.amo-bulbi.it/tav_Narciso_cinese.htm
    The flower is much loved by the Chinese.
    Best regards.
       Henry (Rome) 

  4. Fran Higgins says:

    Oh! How lovely! Perfect for a cold, snowy day. Thanks for sharing.

    Alice ( title=).

    > Dear John,
    >
    > The CSL was probably brought to China by Portuguese merchants via the sea.
    >
    > Many years ago (in the’80s), after a visit to China, I included in the ADS
    > journal a story about Chinese painters in a southern province who painted
    > for me several sheets in watercolours and included a poem about this
    > Narcissus which every child in China had to learn by heart.
    > http://www.amo-bulbi.it/tav_Narciso_cinese.htm
    > The flower is much loved by the Chinese.
    > Best regards.
    > Henry (Rome)
    >