ID help needed from Nantucket

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1. Mary:

   My best guess is Daphne.

   Drew Mc Farland

   Granville, Ohio

   In a message dated 6/2/2009 11:07:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, writes:

   Greetings from Nantucket.  This was spotted this week along the roadside on the Island.  I can’t believe we still have something in bloom in June.   Although it has gone by, I was wondering if anyone can help identify this variety.  It does have fragrance.  I looked on Daffseek, but was unsuccessful.  I know they were planted here probably in the last 35 years. 

    

   Any help would be appreciated. 

    

   Many thanks.

    

   Mary

    

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2. We sometimes get pretty late bloom from varieties that will send up a bloom or two way after all the rest of the bulbs have sent up bloom stalks, bloomed out and flowers died away.

    

   This is going to be a double in Daffseek or a division 4. Problem is going to be that late season doubles seldom have the color and form of the same blooms that open up in their correct time of blooming for that variety.

    

   Some of the more common doubles sold in the 1970’s that do NOT open and form petals very well in the heat of late spring early summer are Irene Copeland and Mary Copeland. I actually have not had a bloom on either of these for the past five or six years now. Too early (coffee is still brewing) and too dark (sun isn’t up yet) to look up their color codes.

   Drew guessed Daphne which can be a lovely bloom.

    

   Flower Drift as I recall is a double out of Flower Record and was available in the 1970’s

    

   Camellia blooms and does pretty well up north. Basal rot kills it in the south.

   Replete is an older 4W-P that is never a very good bloom. Or it never quite opens all the way here in Texas.

   Texas a 4 Y-Y I believe is one of those doubles that has NEVER opened and ALWAYS blasts here in my yard and I have probably 100 bulbs taking up space. I am waiting for that one perfect year to get a photo….Century cactus bloom once every 50 years or so. There is always a chance I will live long enough to see Texas bloom in Texas. 

    

   OK so the bulbs were planted 35 years ago possibly. Bulbs on the mass market, sold in the USA back in the 1970’s were often named prior to World War II.

    

   Massachusetts would have had different bulb suppliers back locally in the 70’s before Wal-Marts and Lowe’s and Home Depots that buy and distribute the same bulbs and plants all over the country. There were LOTS of smaller companies that bought bulbs and sold regionally.

    

   It was AMAZING to us as Yankee’s moving to Texas from Ohio in 1964 the numbers of local people who REFUSED to order or buy ANYTHING from ANY company north of the Mason Dixon line. The American Civil War’s bitter memories lasted well over 100 years. All the bulbs my brother and family bought in the 1960’s through the 1980’s came from Good Ol’ southern bulb companies there in Virginia!!!

    

   Again regional weather differences and regional bulb companies would have determined what the actual name of the flower you have blooming there where you live. Keith Kridler Massive thunderstorms rolling past just to our north. Still too wet to dig bulbs here in northeast Texas.

3. Mary,

   I think it is probably one of the many forms of double poeticus that flower in the second half of May in many parts ot the UK. and Ireland – particularly as you say it is fragrant. Some forms are better than others and the form, degree of doubleness,  seems to depend on the season.

   Brian Duncan 

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