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Crows

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I’m a little surprised to see you recommending feeding the crows Keith….around here the only thing we only feed them are lead pellets at a high velocity. They can be extremely destructive – especially at planting time if they decide you are trying to hide something good to eat in the rows.
I have had them methodically go down a row that hasn’t been completely hilled up and pull out hundreds of bulbs, carry them a short distance, peck holes in them and then go back and get more. For such a supposedly smart bird it takes them quite a while to figure out that none of the bulbs are going to taste good.
You only need to shoot one and lay it out in the field to keep all the others away for a long time. Sorry if anyone is offended by this – I am a bird lover but when they mess with my daffodils all is fair. Matt Groves, Bradner, BC
I have attached a picture of part of my container beds with Golden Ears mountain in the background on one of the few nice days we have had during this terribly cold wet spring and also a shot of Cherry’s Easter centerpiece.

7 comments for “Crows”

  1. I’m with you, Matt! Anything messes with my daffodils is in trouble!!
    Mary Lou

  3. Both very beautiful and I agree with you about the crows; daffodils come first!! Phyllis Hess
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  4. My son lives in Singapore where it is illegal (more unthinkable) to spit on the street. However, the streets are patroled by armed city/state employees whose sole responsibility is to shot crows. He doesn't know the rational (if one exists) but has witnessed several shootings. Several years ago (at my age who knows when that was exactly), crows became an endagered species here in the US and Mexico and it became illegal to shoot them – UNLESS – they were creating mischief or on their way to create mischief. When the US Fish and Wildlife people began to realise the law was useless – since every crow is creating mischief or on their way to create mischief, the USF&WS removed their no shooting ban. Who was responsible for this law? I'd love to know so I could find out if he had to "eat crow" when the no shooting ban was repealed. Denis

    On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Phyllis Hess < title=> wrote:

    Both very beautiful and I agree with you about the crows; daffodils come
    first!!
    Phyllis Hess

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  5. Denis:
    Your email lead me to do some research.  I’d not heard of crows ever being endangered federally.  With exceptions under the federal Endangered Species Act (which itself is Constitutionally shaky except regarding goods in interstate commerce) birds are generally only protected if they are internationally migratory and subject to treaties (generally with Canada and Mexico).
    I didn’t find them ever being listed federally, although my search wasn’t exhaustive, and it’s possible some states may have listed them.  (I speak here of the American Crow, Fish Crow and other common crows; the Hawaiian Crow and some other principally Pacific Crows are considered “endangered”).
    From there I looked at Ohio law to see what my State said on the matter.  To my great surprise, killing them is illegal here (although I’d doubt anyone would question the “offender”).  For whatever reason, they were left out of the exceptions to the following law:

    Title 15. CONSERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES

    Chapter 1533. HUNTING; FISHING

    Current through March 23 of the 2011 Legislative Session

     § 1533.07.  Protection afforded nongame birds

    No person shall catch, kill, injure, pursue, or have in the person’s possession, either dead or alive, or purchase, expose for sale, transport, or ship to a point within or without the state, or receive or deliver for transportation any bird other than a game bird, or have in the person’s possession any part of the plumage, skin, or body of any bird other than a game bird, except as permitted in Chapter 1531. and this chapter of the Revised Code, or disturb or destroy the eggs, nest, or young of such a bird.

    This section does not prohibit the lawful taking, killing, pursuing, or possession of any game bird during the open season for the bird. Bald or golden eagles and ospreys shall not be killed or possessed at any time, except that eagles or ospreys may be possessed for educational purposes by governmental or municipal zoological parks, museums, and scientific or educational institutions. European starlings, English sparrows, and common pigeons, other than homing pigeons, may be killed at any time and their nests or eggs may be destroyed at any time. Blackbirds may be killed at any time when doing damage to grain or other property or when they become a nuisance.

    Each bird or any part thereof taken or had in possession contrary to this section constitutes a separate offense.

    History. Effective Date: 08-14-2002; 04-06-2007

    Watch out English Sparrows!

    Classified as a First Degree Misdeaminor, the maximum penalty is six months and a thousand dollars…a degree of crime equal to the now nearly captial offense of drunk driving. Nonetheless, I personally wouldn’t hesitate to feed lead to them if I witnessed what was seen in Nova Scotia.  Perhaps the Buckeyes on this listserv should be writing their legislators to add crows in with Blackbirds.

    Of course, many of you may live in municipalities which prohibit the discharge of a weapon anyway, in which case an air horn might be a good investment.

    Regards,

    Drew Mc Farland

    Granville, Ohio

    In a message dated 5/6/2011 9:22:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, title= writes:

    My son lives in Singapore where it is illegal (more unthinkable) to spit on the street. However, the streets are patroled by armed city/state employees whose sole responsibility is to shot crows. He doesn’t know the rational (if one exists) but has witnessed several shootings. Several years ago (at my age who knows when that was exactly), crows became an endagered species here in the US and Mexico and it became illegal to shoot them – UNLESS – they were creating mischief or on their way to create mischief. When the US Fish and Wildlife people began to realise the law was useless – since every crow is creating mischief or on their way to create mischief, the USF&WS removed their no shooting ban. Who was responsible for this law? I’d love to know so I could find out if he had to “eat crow” when the no shooting ban was repealed. Denis

    On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Phyllis Hess < title=> wrote:

    Both very beautiful and I agree with you about the crows; daffodils come
    first!!
    Phyllis Hess

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  7. Love Cherry’s centerpiece. Consider submitting the photo for entry in a show next season.
    Best regards, Chriss Rainey

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