Hybridizers, Ice Follies

Hello Everyone,
Has anyone out there done any hybridizing with Ice Follies? Though not the best show flower, it has many traits that we need in garden and show flowers. Long lived, great multiplier, reliable bloomer, etc. In Daffseek, most descendants from Ice Follies are sports not seedlings. Does it not set seed well, is the pollen fertile, does it pass along it’s good traits to it’s seedlings. Does anyone out there have any experience with it as a parent? What are your opinions of it as a possible parent?
 
Not a lot on Daffnet right now, maybe this will get something going. I’am sure Tom Stettner has an opinon on this.
Regards,
Larry
 
 

4 comments for “Hybridizers, Ice Follies

  1. Daffodil Friends,

    In the numerous unbloomed, unidentified seedlings I inherited from
    Manuel Lima upon his passing was one that must have been from Ice
    Follies. Manuel put viridiflorus pollen on every cultivar he could
    obtain, so it is very likely he did breed with Ice Follies. There was
    only one seedling that looked like this – strongly resembling Ice
    Follies, but somehow with less substance. No flush of green ever
    apparent. My conclusion was that this seedling was actually Ice Follies selfed.

    Bob

    At 07:09 AM 1/22/2012, Larry Force wrote:

  2. There are a lot of Ice Follies sports-but I did not know how to find them on Daffseek. I found the seedling in my search.These cultivars are perhaps notthe best we can expect from the cultivar,and I am happy to grow a couple of them. If Tom does not like to see Ice Folliesin the shows I agree with that sentiment.I don’t agree with the idea of using it tobreed with, but I would defer to anyone with decent seedlings. The only good seedlingshere are from the efforts of other people. I am still trying for the first good bloom from my own seeds. Here is what I found on daffseek;(below)In my opinion Early to Rise and Saint Patricks Dayare great garden flowers that continue to performwell long after they are planted, and while I recall winning ribbons with both they do not qualify as good show flowers. Ice Follies, 2 W-W, Konynenburg & Mark, the Netherlands, 1953<="" a="">Betty Jean Forster, 4 W-O, Betty & Freddie McCown, United States, 2008
    <="" a="">Bogla’rka, 2 Y-Y, Lajos Jezerniczky, Hungary, 1987
    <="" a="">Early to Rise, 2 W-Y, O. Dave Niswonger, Missouri, United States, 1995
    <="" a="">Eniko, 2 W-Y, Lajos Jezerniczky, Hungary, 1987
    <="" a="">Mrs. Paige Paterson, 2 Y-O, Karel J. van der Veek, the Netherlands, 2011
    <="" a="">Saint Patrick’s Day, 2 Y-Y, Konynenburg & Mark, the Netherlands, 1964

    > Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:02:19 -0800

  3. Hello All..
    Some years ago, John Reed donated some seedling bulbs from his
    breeding program to SWODS that he was not going to register. There were
    informal names given to these seedlings.
    One of them was bred from Ice Follies. During one of the fall sales that
    year, Bill Lee quoted that I was required to grow these and take their
    photos for records. I quickly agreed not knowing that Ice Follies was a
    parent of one of them.

    I find it difficult to even type that name :-) But in the spirit of
    the current discussion, I’ll offer this photo of that seedling, which is
    certainly different and better than Ice Follies in my perception.
    It’s a reverse version of Ice Follies. Grows just as vigorous and has
    very good substance as well.

    I’ve since moved to a new property and didn’t take these seedlings with
    me. I hope that just for this discussions sake that someone else has
    some of these seedlings as I certainly feel they were worthy of growing.

    Tom

  4. I think it is quite nice, Tom. I don’t have any of it, though, and I don’t know that anyone else does either. Maybe John Reed would have either some left or something quite close to it.

    I’d like to have a bulb of it!
    Bill Lee

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