4 W – P Peggydale

Hi Daffnetters, A nice Kiwi pink double, flowering rather earlier than it,s normal season.

Peggydale 4 W – P Windblown O.P. – x – Dawncrest. breeder Colin Crotty Pleasant Valley Daffodils.

Colin and I exchange a few seedlings each season; Colin knows my double interests and sent a few doubles this year. As the South Island bulbs are usually rather late the first year in the North, I chilled some of them for a about 10 weeks. This is easily the earliest — Colin said he would expect it to be about mid September normally in Otaki. Five bulbs planted in a pot, 5 flowers, all with a few stamens and fluffy pollen, which is being well spread.No greening at all, good stems and solid necks. More the rosette style of double than the classic layered and higher centered exhibition flowers, but very attractive and good sized.

The Windblown line of doubles has been quite prominent in N Z doubles. Windblown, 4 W – y, an early Oregon flower, is in the parentage of the famous Max Hamilton double Kiwi Magic. Also the parent of Pikorrie, a useful Colin Crotty early double. Windblown was noted for weak stems and some of it,s seedlings also inherited this weakness. The next big step in this line is Peter Ramsays great cross of 2 W – W Springston Charm – x – Kiwi Magic. Springston Charm has a great stem; tall, round and strong with an excellent neck. All one would hope for to take a big double. Importantly the best features came through in a good line of seedlings for Peter. This cross gave the beautiful Cameo Magic 4 W – W and several other registered doubles. All great doubles, — related to Peggydale through the Windblown line. Hope all the pollen I have spread knows of my expectations — ask in 5 years.

Cheers John.

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4 comments for “4 W – P Peggydale

  1. Hello John and All,

    I may have a bit of a puzzle in DaffSeek and would like help to solve it. Ben took photos of a cultivar named ‘Windblown’ in South Island NZ in 2007. Since his photos were of a stuffed cup rather than the Oregon ‘Windblown’ photos, I made a separate DaffSeek entry thinking it was different cultivar. John, you referred to the Oregon ‘Windblown’ below which made me wonder that maybe Ben’s photos were of a stuffed cup Oregon ‘Windblown’. Do many doubles go back and forth with stuffed cups and full cups like ‘Telamonius Plenus’?

    Oregon ‘Windblown’ Daffseek entry: http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Windblown&lastpage=1&which=hist1

    NZ ‘Windblown’ DaffSeek entry: http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Windblown%23&lastpage=1&which=hist1

    Many thanks,

    Nancy

  2. Nancy, You are so good with words of description – you’ve introduced a new term “stuffed cup” but I’m sure we all know immediatly what you mean. ‘Popeye’ is a wonderful and quite attractive example. There are some nice, if not quite consistent ‘stuffed cup’ ‘Van Sion’ grown on Texel. I wonder how many people find stuffed cup daffodils attractive – or is this description a ‘put-off?? I’d like to know before I admit that I’m trying to breed some with dramatic colours!! ?? :-) Brian

  3. Nancy and Brian,

    ‘Popeye’ that Brian mentions is a gorgeous stuffed cup flower that, after three year in the ground here, turns into a traditionally built double flower, albeit rather narrowly segmented and spidery… and perhaps not as well formed, overlapped, and novel as its stuffed-cup appearance. ‘Wave’ and ‘Art Perfume’ do the same thing. ‘Petit Four’, as indicative in my photograph on Daffseek, reverts to a Div. 2, instead of a 4. Several of the Dutch 11b flowers do the same weird morphological changes—‘Trepolo’ can, after a few years in the ground, look identical to ‘Flower Record’ in our region, until it’s dug and replanted. Many of these novelty types can be very temperamental. From my experience, the best thing to do to keep them looking their best is to keep them disturbed, or divided every 3 years.

    (A similar disruption culture is needed to keep the Hemerocallis ‘Stella d’Oro’ flowering perpetually, by dividing it every two years and keeping the clumps fairly small—they’ll never stop flowering.)

    Jason

    I fully believe from both sets of images that they are the same flower, just putting on a different appearance.

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  4. Brian and all…………we grew the Havens Viennese Waltz, a very early white with a “stuffed cup.” It was one of my favorite flowers because it came so early. We don’t have it now in this house, and I’m not sure if Elise is still growing it.

    Barbara and len Weber

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