a couple of later blooming daffodils, not dinner plate flat

A couple of seedlings with the poet Ringer as one parent. Ringer seems to impart a curving of the petals to it’s progeny. At least in these two crosses.
The first a standard, Torr Head x Ringer. Very curved petals but consistent in all petals. I think a vase of three would be interesting, different and nice. They all don’t have to be dinner plate flat, do they?
The second a miniature, The curving is not as dominate but there, in a more gentle fashion.( rupicola x Ringer)
 
My computer crashed a few days ago and I seem to have lost the ability to downsize photos. Will have to send one at a time. Sorry