Stuffed Centers — Twink

Hi Daffnetters, I found this beauty growing beside a planted row, but next to a section of the old Dutch double “Twink ” It is not a variety that I planted or have grown before. The perianth is quite well formed and flat, — certainly a lot wider than Twink , next door.Also a clean white; Twink is off – white. The plant was obviously a single nose, — first flower size.

Could it be from an open pollinated Twink.

Daffseek has “Twink ” as a 4 – Y O.

Twink de Graaff The Netherlands pre 1925.

It also notes it is both seed and pollen fertile but no descendants are listed. In the early 1980,s when I was trying to find fertile doubles, with limited success, I pollinated 100 flowers of Twink, in about 5 groups with different pollen parents.I was a little disappointed, but not surprised, at no seed set. Unfortunately we did not have the magic of Daffnet or Daffseek to help in those days.Very much trial and error.

I can certainly see some Twink characteristics in the seedling but guess we will never know. It has been pegged and marked for lifting this summer.

Cheers John.

9 comments for “Stuffed Centers — Twink

  1.  http://www.matthverdegaal.nl/bloemen/Narcissus/img/Peach%20Swirl.jpg

     http://www.daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Peach%20Swirl&lastpage=1&

     John,

     Your mystery flower looks like ‘Peach Swirl’, a newer Karl van der Veek hybrid from the Netherlands.  In its first year as it grew for me, the flowers looked exactly like your image when they first opened, precisely stuffed. As the weather warmed and the flowers matured, the stuffing eventually burst through the coronas, creating more of an ‘Ice King’ look, though some remained contained. Last year, the flowers were mostly like those in the photo, above, with a traditional if not loose doubling. ‘Peach Swirl’ is a vigorous and floriferous hybrid with stout stems and exceptional color early on, akin to Steve Vinisky’s ‘Orange Marmalade’, but in character fashionably Dutch; its habit, size, color saturation, and substance are similar to a well-grown ‘Johann Strauss’. For those looking for an impact flower, this one fits the bill.

     On the other hand, if it is a ‘Twink’ hybrid, then clearly we must get busy breeding ‘Twink’ to unlock its apparent genetic potential!

     The attached photo belongs to Hein Meeuwissen. Note the corona of the flower in the left background.

    Jason


  2. Yes. Infamous Brecks and an internet company, American Meadows, carry it this year. Last year, there were more vendors.

    I’ve found American Meadows to be quite good with supplying accurately named plants, and their pricing is great. And ‘Peach Swirl’ is on sale right now!

    Jason

     

  3. Well worth keeping John though unfortunately I do not see a pistil in the picture. Maybe another year? Brian

  4. From stuffed centers to fangs – what next in daffodils? I do like the Peach Swirl – is it in commerce now? Ethel Smith in MN

  5. Hello John,

    The latest information I have on bulbs with high amounts of Galanthamine used in the treatment of Alzheimer’s is that Twink 4W-O is the daffodil of choice! I would suggest John, that you treat any of it offspring with high regard, you never know what you may have!

    Ian

  6. Jason,

    Would you elaborate on your terminology of “character fashionably Dutch”?

    Edie Godfrey, Minnesota

     

  7. Undeniably classic.

    Durable and rugged, yet charming and endearing…

    A smart look, but never so rigidly formal as to deny itself all of the fun: A fine pair of shoes, a pair of worn-in jeans, a comfy dress shirt, a tailored sport coat, and a beer…

    Good.

    Does this clarify?

     ;-)

     (Not that ‘Orange Marmalade’ isn’t all of that; ‘Peach Swirl’ is just more of a garden flower.)

    Jason

  8. This flower would surely receive the judges’ scorn. In the stuffed-cup stage it is very tidy—clearly John’s photos indicate as much—but it’s still a non-traditional double. Its symmetry, substance, flat petals, and even the coronal doubling pattern are good, but it’s not a double like ‘Tahit’, et al.

    In its second year and beyond, or as it more regularly grows, when ‘Peach Swirl’ goes fully double it loses all show qualities as the placement of coronal and petal segments becomes irregular (as evidenced in my image), though it still makes for a very fine garden flower, especially as doubles go.

    It would be nice if these stuffed-cup flowers had their own classification domain for registration and for judging criteria—a sub category within Division 4, much like we already do for split coronas, having 11a and 11b. I’ve seen them entered in shows before, only to be immediately passed over in pursuit of a traditional double. ‘Petit Four’, ‘Rosy Cloud’, ‘White Marvel’, ‘Wave’, ‘Viennese Waltz’, ‘Art Perfume’ (aka ‘Art Nouveau’), ‘Popeye’, ‘Exotic Beauty’, ‘Candy Princess’, first year ‘Peach Swirl’, oftentimes ‘Extravaganza’, ‘Hollandia’, unregistered double ‘Pink Silk’, ‘Ice King’, ‘Full House’, ‘Toyama’, and I’m sure a host of others I don’t even know, are all quite well-formed if not “perfectly” formed flowers in the perianth, many being very flat and having a perfect poise for the show table; on good flowers, coronal doubling can also be very consistent—‘Petit Four’ immediately comes to mind, as does ‘Extravaganza’. Yet, they are somehow still not quite equal. And all are so very novel, something I feel is often amiss on the show table.

    Any others feel the same on this? I think we’ll be seeing even more of these in the future… Check out this year’s offering of ‘Candy Princess’ on the John Scheepers website—its gorgeous, and knowing it’s an ‘Accent’ sport, it will no doubt be a very strong commercial variety.

    Jason

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